The Super-Magical Logical Hatred Thread!

[Kade]

Piggy-backing on Dalton's original point, I personally would love to see some gutsier players... (and honestly, I could afford to grow some balls myself) -- people who aren't afraid to enter a tavern, or forest, or whatever then pull out a gun, set off a bomb, chop down a tree, or whatever (just create a little hell!)

That reminds me.

I hate Tavernburners. Everyone knows tavernburners. They're the guys that try to be the center of attention by shitting on everyone's roleplay, usually while espousing some kind of faux-noble cause like, "I'm just giving everyone a villain to unite against," as though their bullshit is a blessing unto the storylines they're helping [see: murdering]. It's arrogant, annoying, and immature. Don't confuse interesting with obnoxious.

Warning: Not much of a happy camper right now, so I might have been a bit blunt/terse/rude.

[Jason Baane]

I wholeheartedly agree, Kade.

[Dalton]

On the other hand, I don't like it when something legitimate happens--such as a simple bar fight escalating to a rather destructive level, all completely IC and reasonable--and suddenly the room fills people loudly announcing that they're no long acknowledging the "tavernburners".

Meh. If you want a closed off RP where nothing bad will ever happen, make your own tavern. If you want to play in the public room, then be prepared for other peoples' plots to crash into yours.

Darnit, back when I used to play, that was my favorite part! I wasn't just involved in my one closed of plot with three other people. My plot would often collide with another--now we've got eight people involved in this mess. In turn, more plots collide, and soon you have a significant portion of TK directly or indirectly influencing your story. Suddenly the outcome isn't predictable any more because it's more than just you and your best friend determining the outcome of every event.

I mean, really, if you want your story to progress predictably and end the way you want it, then log out, and write a freaking story. Maybe somebody will want to read it. But don't sit in public rooms and expect nobody to talk to you without your explicit invitation.

[SilverStreak]

Piggy-backing on Dalton's original point, I personally would love to see some gutsier players... (and honestly, I could afford to grow some balls myself) -- people who aren't afraid to enter a tavern, or forest, or whatever then pull out a gun, set off a bomb, chop down a tree, or whatever (just create a little hell!)

That reminds me.

I hate Tavernburners. Everyone knows tavernburners. They're the guys that try to be the center of attention by shitting on everyone's roleplay, usually while espousing some kind of faux-noble cause like, "I'm just giving everyone a villain to unite against," as though their bullshit is a blessing unto the storylines they're helping [see: murdering]. It's arrogant, annoying, and immature. Don't confuse interesting with obnoxious.

Warning: Not much of a happy camper right now, so I might have been a bit blunt/terse/rude.

I was using some pretty extreme examples, but I stand by my basic assertion. Maybe not burn the tavern so much as ... break a window or flip over a table. I agree with interesting vs. obnoxious ... there is a line to be drawn. Throwing up on everyone else will be unexpected, but obnoxious ... Announcing to everyone that there is a bomb in the tavern, and the moment anyone tries to leave it will explode ... or that one of the bottles randomly has been poisoned ... now maybe we're getting somewhere...

Meh. If you want a closed off RP where nothing bad will ever happen, make your own tavern. If you want to play in the public room, then be prepared for other peoples' plots to crash into yours.

Darnit, back when I used to play, that was my favorite part! I wasn't just involved in my one closed of plot with three other people. My plot would often collide with another--now we've got eight people involved in this mess. In turn, more plots collide, and soon you have a significant portion of TK directly or indirectly influencing your story. Suddenly the outcome isn't predictable any more because it's more than just you and your best friend determining the outcome of every event.

I mean, really, if you want your story to progress predictably and end the way you want it, then log out, and write a freaking story. Maybe somebody will want to read it. But don't sit in public rooms and expect nobody to talk to you without your explicit invitation.

This. ^

[Dalton]

One more thing to add on to my previous statement.

It's a pub. In a fantasy-cyberpunk-modern-etc setting. You have people with guns. People with knives. People with enchanted swords. People with the ability to throw fireballs at will. They're all drinking alcohol--usually a ridiculous amount of it.

Think about that. Drunk people with weapons of mass destruction. You'd think crazy shit would happen MORE often.

But then again, and moving to a different point entirely, who ever plays being drunk realistically? I don't expect a person who's never had alcohol to get all the subtle details. That's fine. But well...

This has happened too many times to count. You know how people like to do that attention-whoring stuff where they come stumbling into your scene and collapse because they are greviously injured, or drunk off their ass, or whatever? Well, I played an unapologetic pickpocket. Whenever things like that happened, my character's response was to first dig through their belongings for anything of value that he can remove, THEN administer medical attention. Except, conveniently enough, the moment he tried to take their favorite magic knife or whatever, they'd suddenly spring to life again. Suddenly their dizzying loss of blood or their BAC of 0.23 isn't enough to prevent them from smoothly taking to their feet and fighting me with enough skill and precision to make Chuck Norris quiver.

This bull dookie happened practically EVERY SINGLE TIME a person passed out in my presence. If there was even once that I actually succeeded at pickpocketing an UNCONSCIOUS PERSON, I can't remember it!

[Inquisitor]

I made an Ork and brought him into the Pub to burn the place once.

Everyone loved it.

[Jason Baane]

On the other hand, Dalton, you frequently get bad guys who's players know absolutely nothing of subtlety and are more than eager to take advantage, on an OOC level, of the tolerance of everyone else to assert things which don't really fit into the RP that's going on. Just because it's freeform shouldn't mean that it's cool to warp in with an armada of space ships and start dropping plague bombs from low orbit on all the players of a medieval fantasy setting, or a classical Victorian setting. This isn't story; this is ridiculous.

As one of the mods of Silvermoon, I hear the exact argument kade quoted constantly. "We're doing you a favor. RP shouldn't be all tea parties." etc etc. No, RP needs different things to happen. It needs a level of chaos. But when every week a villain comes in custom tailored to defeat everything handily with overwhelming force, and the OOC aptitude to asspull everything he can to instantly adapt to a changing situation, it isn't 'doing everyone a favor.' It's being obnoxious.

And, sadly, a lot of people who whine about bad guys and evil characters having it particularly hard/being ignored are the same ones who can't wrap their heads around the obvious: that this kind of behavior is abrasive and disruptive on the OOC level.

[Soja]

I made an Ork and brought him into the Pub to burn the place once.

Everyone loved it.

Warboss.

Nevar forget.

[Devin`Asures]

My hunch is that TK is littered with isolated, excommunicated nerds (present company excluded of course) who are so terrified of making rivals or enemies in real life (or already have such an abundance of them), that they'll stick to boring, mundane interactions that provide them with 'friends' or 'associates,' instead of rocking the boat a little for some interesting role-play.

This is also the reason, I suspect, that there seems to be an abundance of neutrally oriented characters; nobody seems interested in really making friends, or enemies ... they just want to live out their fantasy as the character instead of playing out any context for him or her. If there was a giant IC war, and everyone had to participate, I guarantee you'd have most people sitting on the sidelines as 'neutral.' -_-

I don't think we've played together, have we? I'm really tooting my own horn here, but I pride myself on playing a character that doesn't get along with a lot of people, and in fact, I go out of my way to make him antagonistic in many situations. Simple conversations turn into a verbal sniping match, or escalate into things being thrown around and broken. My character is purposely and willfully nasty to just about everyone he meets (It's a great way to scare off the 'ADD' players and shut down any 'getting to know you' time-waster RP with new chars who won't be there tomorrow or even in an hour).
And if people have the balls to stick around and god forbid, even retaliate or reciprocate my character's bullying, bad temper, and general spoiled golden boy disposition, then we have an interesting RP on our hands. (Incidentally, this doesn't often happen. The play just goes like:

<Devin> "Insults, derides, sneers."
<Random 'ho> *icey blue eyez water and she starts to cry becuz devin is so meen and she doesn't kno why cuz she's so nice and placid to everyone*
<Devin> "Scorns Random 'ho as a witless ninny and tells her to get lost and go play with dolls or something"
<Random 'ho> "Tells devin he's so mean" *Runs away crying then shows her tits to some other random dumbass so devin sees what he's missing"

And so on and so forth. In short, I'm so sick of wussy characters who can't take a bit of an IC verbal beating. It's like they suddenly think that Mr spoiled asshole will relent and take pity on them or something and they'll live happily ever after. BOOORING.)

Either way, it's a win/win situation for me, since I really enjoy IC verbally bullying other characters whose players are too dumbshit to do anything creative with the scenario and are really just there for some piss-weak romance/cyber plot because they saw the word 'Prince' in my profile.

I'll acknowledge that it's not everyone's idea of a fun time to have some asshole IC insulting you and treating you like crap at every turn, but there's no denying that Mr spoiled asshole generates conflict, and it's the conflict between characters that makes them interesting, just like someone said earlier.
Conflict doesn't always have to be killing, brawling, raping, buring, pillaging et cetera. In fact, I find much of that sort of thing a bit overdone and repetitive. I totally don't mind if say, my character insults the wrong person and they smack him in the mouth. This has happened a lot, and I like to think that other players find it fun and satisfying. OH OH! Which brings me to something I HATE.

I hate antagonistic characters that never seem to get their come uppance. I'll use my char as an example of an antagonistic character. We have an arrogant, snobby 'too good for you' character who treats most people around him like servants or dirt. He's verbally abusive, abrsaive, and has a massive sense that he's entitled--no, supposed to be this way. So he goes around pissing people off, and sometimes these people are carrying weapons, or just plain won't put up with his bad manners. So one day, he bitches at the wrong person, and suddenly, someone's swinging a sword or a fist at his head.

Now with my character, I've got a massive sense of 'fair play'. If I've been giving someone shit, I'll let them punch my character, or hit him with a sword (provided it's not going to wreck anything). I fully understand that sometimes, the way my character acts is going to get him a smack in the face or worse, so I let it happen. It's often funny, and spawns more interaction, so it's good for RP.
BUT! The people I HATE are the ones who act just like I do with their chars (insulting, pissing people off etc), but when someone goes to put them in their place IC or lash out because they can't take that shit anymore, the 'Asshole' character magically dodges everything thrown at them, counters, fights, wins, comes out on top and just keeps acting like a fuckface. ALL THE TIME.
Yeah, I get it that some characters could fend off an attack, but it's bullshit when it happens every single time and so they avoid consequences for being an asshole. That's boring RP, and I find myself not wanting to play with morons like that who just won't accept consequences for their IC actions, and just want to 'win' all the time and look good. Their characters don't evolve much past that "piss people off, fight them, win" dynamic, generally, so it's a waste of time playing with them.

[Inquisitor]

You sound like an asshole

[SilverStreak]

I don't think we've played together, have we?

You know, I don't think we have... I'd be open to changing this...

The people I HATE are the ones who act just like I do with their chars (insulting, pissing people off etc), but when someone goes to put them in their place IC or lash out because they can't take that shit anymore, the 'Asshole' character magically dodges everything thrown at them, counters, fights, wins, comes out on top and just keeps acting like a fuckface. ALL THE TIME.
Yeah, I get it that some characters could fend off an attack, but it's bullshit when it happens every single time and so they avoid consequences for being an asshole. That's boring RP, and I find myself not wanting to play with morons like that who just won't accept consequences for their IC actions, and just want to 'win' all the time and look good. Their characters don't evolve much past that "piss people off, fight them, win" dynamic, generally, so it's a waste of time playing with them.

... and then God invented /roll passfail ... 

[Dalton]

I actually do tend to roll dice for my characters. I find it boring when somebody always "succeeds in the nick of time" or when the bad guy always loses or whatever, so whenever I get the urge to I'll roll a few dice and see if my characters have a chance of just straight up failing. It's happened a few times. Too bad nobody else seems to be willing to take the same risks with their character. Heaven forbid they not win a fight.

[SilverStreak]

  Man this thread has opened so many possibilities for me to express my pent-up, RP angst.

Here's one more thing that bugs me (and maybe some of you others feel the same way):

Siblings.

For chrissake. I don't want to play your character's brother, or father, uncle, or what-thehell-ever.

If I wanted to play a character that was written by somebody else I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of creating my own now would I? Is it so much to ask that I actually get to use a character that I've written for a change?

In fact, if I wanted to play a character that someone else had created, I might, oh you know, pick an interesting one ... from somewhere like a novel, comic book, tv series, or film ... just a thought.

The only circumstance under which I might consider RPing with someone "looking for someone to play his/her <insert relationship here>" is if I got to completely write every other aspect of the character from scratch... However, since most of these sorts of people seem to be the egocentric/megalomaniac type, I think I'll just continue to steer clear.

[Dalton]

Some things I used to like but now hate because they were ruined by faggots:

Vampires. When vampires were lords of darkness, leading undead armies, backed by the hosts of Hell and bent on bringing an unholy doom to all humanity.. that was bad-ass. Now vampires are pacifistic, sparkling pussies. Fuck vampires.

Technology. Technology is interesting if done right. A character with technological equipment has to face the struggle of keeping the equipment repaired and fueled/charged/whatever in an environment that may not have such supplies in ready demand. Granted things like a combat armor suit were a significant advantage, but they COULD be interesting.

COULD  be. But never were. Because after the very first time that Noober McGodmode's technological advantage is shut down by something logical (a sword through the circuit board, or a magical lightning bolt) he suddenly decides to "upgrade" it to have force fields, anti-magic fields, and whatever other deus ex machinafields he decides are necessary to be invulnerable. For all the potential fun a fantasy/technology mixed world could be, it's ruined by the idiots who (as Jason said) decide it's "fun and creative" to nuclear-carpet-bomb a low-tech city from outer space using warp drives or something.

Drow. Do I even need to mention Drizzle?

Demons. See my spiel on vampires above.  Every time I meet a friendly neighborhood demon who just wants to hug me, I cringe, die a little inside, and take one step closer to being one of those wrinkly old farts who do nothing but sit in OOC chats and bitch about a lack of roleplay.

Werewolves. Potential to be interesting. I like the whole idea of a person forced into a change against their will, struggling to retain their humanity as simple primal urges turn them further and further away from who they used to be. The idea that underneath that vicious, bloodthirsty beast is what's left of a frightened person still desperate for a cure. Too bad werewolves, like anything else with fur, are more interested in yiffing people than hunting them down and eating them.

[Moondog]

Some things I used to like but now hate because they were ruined by faggots:

Vampires. When vampires were lords of darkness, leading undead armies, backed by the hosts of Hell and bent on bringing an unholy doom to all humanity.. that was bad-ass. Now vampires are pacifistic, sparkling pussies. Fuck vampires.

When was this? Last I checked, they were primarily old men who stole into the bedrooms of attractive young women and raped them took their bodily fluids for their own and, with their virginity fluids having been taken, reduced them to untouchable women their slaves.

Romanticized rape analogues are not and never have been 'bad-ass'.

[Inquisitor]

Some things I used to like but now hate because they were ruined by faggots:

Vampires. When vampires were lords of darkness, leading undead armies, backed by the hosts of Hell and bent on bringing an unholy doom to all humanity.. that was bad-ass. Now vampires are pacifistic, sparkling pussies. Fuck vampires.

When was this? Last I checked, they were primarily old men who stole into the bedrooms of attractive young women and raped them took their bodily fluids for their own and, with their virginity fluids having been taken, reduced them to untouchable women their slaves.

Romanticized rape analogues are not and never have been 'bad-ass'.

hurf blurf.

edit: Popular fantasy creature for centuries? Rape fantasy. HOW DARE YOU, YOU UNCARING SOULS

[SilverStreak]

Werewolves. Potential to be interesting. I like the whole idea of a person forced into a change against their will, struggling to retain their humanity as simple primal urges turn them further and further away from who they used to be. The idea that underneath that vicious, bloodthirsty beast is what's left of a frightened person still desperate for a cure. Too bad werewolves, like anything else with fur, are more interested in yiffing people than hunting them down and eating them.

Gotta take a bit of issue with this one. I consider myself something of a werewolf historian (at least I used to be), and anyone studying old-school werewolf mythology (i.e. late 1800's) would recognize that most proper werewolves transform at will, using some kind magical pendant or enchanted pelt, typically obtained through dealings with the devil, or dark magicks (yes, with a k, that means I'm smart).

One of the first published werewolf stories was "Wagner, The Wehrwolf," which first appeared in 1846. It details the account of a man who becomes a werewolf (or wehrwolf as the Victorians like to spell it) by making a deal with the devil.

The notion of a werewolf being 'forced' to transform during a full moon is purely an invention of 20th century Hollywood; it is a plot device, pure and simple...

...As is the notion that a person, when transformed, loses all semblance of his/her humanity. Old-school canon, if memory serves, details a few occurrences that specify that a person when transformed (since they're doing it on purpose), does so with a specific intention, i.e. to kill someone, destroy something, spy on someone, etc. etc.

Furthermore, the whole beastly, walking on two legs, ultimate muscle machine werewolf ... I take issue with that too. Werewolves transform from human to wolf ... Not an uber wolf, not a glorified furry, but a wolf, plain and simple. The only werewolf movie that seems to have gotten this part right, (and I cringe to say it) is Blood and Chocolate ... otherwise the rest of them are, from my perspective, wrong.

Movie Canon and Legend Canon seem to clash a lot less over what a werewolf's abilities, specifically, are. My research has suggested that werewolves, in tradition, were considered fast and cunning pack hunters, notable for their super-human reflexes, dexterity, and speed. Movie-canon typically has them cast as dumb, hapless brutes that are neither fast nor dexterous. Instead, they seem to be vilified as monstrous, overpowered beasts that are easy to evade, but not overpower. However, the two canons, in my experience, seem to come together when describing a werewolf's enhanced, super human senses and reflexes while still in human form.

So forgive those of us who think that most contemporary portrayals of werewolves are horseshit and thus try to blur the line a bit closer to traditional, pre-Hollywood legend.

[Dalton]

Romanticized rape analogues are not and never have been 'bad-ass'.

[Moondog]

Romanticized rape analogues are not and never have been 'bad-ass'.

Well played, sir.

[Auvic]

@SilverStreak:

Back in middle school, I read Blood and Chocolate and thought it was damn good.
..Far better than I thought Twilight was in high school, at east.

Also, @Dalton:

Drow. Do I even need to mention Drizzle?

I resent this, at least a little.
Sure, Drizzt is a Drow. Gotta realize, too, that he's also a main character - and shouldn't be taken as a general representation of the race as a whole. Most Drow in tK aren't, surprisingly, much like him. There's only one or two Drow that run around dual-wielding weapons, and that's out of the...ten or so Drow there are in this place. Something like that, at least.
That said, I always like Jarlaxle more.

[SilverStreak]

@SilverStreak:

Back in middle school, I read Blood and Chocolate and thought it was damn good.
..Far better than I thought Twilight was in high school, at east.

I'm sure the book was absolutely fantastic. I was referring to the movie adaptation since there seems to be a "Movie Canon" when it comes to werewolves.

Also, if you enjoyed that, you should check out The Blooding by Patricia Winsor. 

[MadMusician]

Oh ho ho! It might be repeating the same things that all of you have been saying, but I just got to get into this too!

On one end...

People who don't like OOC while RPing: Sometimes it's needed, and unfortunately sometimes the people in question insist that the issue be out in the open, spamming up RP for other people in the room. This is generally a problem unless they're the only people RPing in the room. So if you're not in the RP and you're trying to tell people to quit OOCing, you're not really accomplishing anything except getting people to both remember who you are, and getting them to stop RPing. RPing requires interaction; and sometimes, you have to let the cat fight happen to sort issues out. On the other hand...

People who OOC like mad during RP: Personally, I don't get offended when someone is OOCing when I'm RPing. If anything, it gives me more of a reason to stare at the computer as I make a post. However, common courtesy would dictate that when someone asks you to do something, like stand in line, or stop yelling in the book store, or in this case, not to spam like a re-re while people are trying to RP. I don't know if these people find it funny, or if they have the social skills of a four year old, or just don't give two flying fucks, but they really grate on my nerves.

Anime Pictures: Let's get this straight. I don't have a problem with anime. I watch a few myself. However, it would seem that the vast majority of the people who use anime pics on TK are...how to put this politely...wussies. They can't take a joke. I've yet to see one make a actual logical argument, and be able to keep it intact. In fact, all I've actually seen the majority of them do is hide in the rooms, protected by their mods. I don't know, and I don't really care what goes on in those rooms though; I'll occasionally only pop in to bother old friends of mine.

Vampires: Absolutely, positively overused. Not only that, but with near 100% accuracy I can without fear say that they are not well played either. Typically, people use "Vampire" as an excuse to have superpowers. A stunning 65% of them also generally fail at RP at all, as they will also automatically know your name, weaknesses, and your favorite color. As far as I'm concerned, nearly the whole lot of them can go jump into a active volcano, provided even that will kill them.

Demons: When I think demon, I think "Want to eat your soul, bound to a BS pact though, but will still try to find ways around to absolutely screw you over." type things. I also like to think that they don't think like people. After all, one would figure that things that are by far, not mortal would have different thought processes. You would think they may range anywhere from looking human (But still most defiently not) to "OMFG WTF IS THAT!?!?" But not to these people. They still look generally human, and the only real difference, aside for some physical quirks, is-- oh please. Please refer to section: Vampire. They should build a spaceship for the purpose of flying into a black hole.

Using the Calvery on Yourself: The Calvery gig (AKA people coming out of nowhere to save you.), when well done, can be absolutely awesome. However, these losers, will pop up on another char of theirs for the purpose of saving the character that is likely about to meet a untimely end that was completely their fault. On TK, it's hard to figure out who does this, but generally, when people do know they're doing it, a massive OOC shitstorm may ensure, and for good reason.

Posting: I'll say this. I do confess I have a problem with rather...large posts, but beyond that...I have even more problem with people who can't post worth a damn. Yah, walking into a bar and taking a seat might not be the most glorious of activities, but if you can't do this in more than 50 words, you may well have a problem. Being able to use proper grammar and spelling are a huge plus too.

Ambushes: Yes, I do agree that fighting is fun, but it gets tiring very fast when every time I go IC, some guy pops out of nowhere and promptly launches 20 LRMs from his Mad Cat Battlemech. On one hand, sure you might of pissed off tons of people, but on the other hand, this doesn't mean they should have ULTRA MAGICAL RAD POWAHS when it comes to finding you.

Abilities out the ass, AKA the "Better than your character no matter what" complex: Sometimes, you foe is powerful. Sometimes, he might come off as a pushover, although he's really a kung-fu master. However, when Goku shoots a energy blast at you, this doesn't mean you suddenly get the ability to use World of Warcraft Paladin Bubbles. Not to mention super speed, time bending abilities, swords that can chop through tanks, a rifle that can take out a mountain fortress and support from a orbiting warship with mounted ion cannons. I can see right through that bullshit; and I don't find the waste of time amusing.

That's all for now. Now I gotta go do army stuffs.

[Xachariah]

On the other hand, if you really need more than fifty words to walk into a bar and have a seat, you may have a problem. Unless roughly 3/5s of that is character description. That is a lot of words to walk in and sit down.

Anyway, my own issues: I hate how a lot of people have been around forever, but can't type worth a damn. They'll say they've been around tK for years - but they type like a five-year-old. Hell, you might even have seen them be around tK for years, but they continue to type like a five-year-old. "I ben on tk fr nien yares" kind of shit, though that is, of course, an exaggerated example.

This mostly irritates me because, y'know, you spend years doing something, shouldn't you get better at it? Even if you're dyslexic or something, you could probably use a spellchecker. Or proofread. I'm not dyslexic, myself, so I don't know if proofreading would be impossible, honestly - but damn, spellcheck.

Also, the people that come on out of nowhere, claim to be oldies, then bitch about tK changing/not changing.

And people who appear once or twice a month, and somehow get the idea that they want to be mods of tK, and that they're qualified for this because they're mods at other sites. Not because they've been around tK for a long period of time, or because they've solved disputes on tK, but because they're mods elsewhere. It just gives the feeling that they're collecting modships like trophies, and it annoys the piss out of me.

[Ganseki]

Things that I hate about something?  Well, there are alot of things that could be said, but I'll chose to limit my selection.

First off, as mentioned before, are people who sit around, complaining there is no rp.  That, in and of itself is really no problem for me, however, then they have the gall to make fun of people that are Rping, giving that most of these rps are theme'd in one way or another *Pokemon, Digimon, even The Lion King*  Yes, the theme's may be childish/old/overused, yes, you may complain that they should at least be original, and yes, some of the characters are not believable in any sense of the word.  However, what they are doing, is they are NOT sitting around, gripping about a lack of rp.  They have gone out of their way to rp something they enjoy and like, despite the fact that they KNOW there are going to be people that will harass them over it.  Takes more balls to do so, then sit in one area complaining, and then go and troll others for actually rping.

Next off...Furries.  Yes, Ganseki is a anthro-Rabbit, and like in my previous statement, he is also themed *Comes from the old classic, Cave-Story*  However, Furries, Anthro's, what-have-you, they have a bad name, and for a generally good reason both here in TK and CC.  In most cases, a typical furry is no better then a slave-character.  You can pretty much guess what it is they are here for.  As for being Furfagots, some are, some are not.  However, in my opinion, playing a Anthro is honestly no diffrent from Rping anything, in the fact that you are pretending to be something else that doesn't exist, and that, in any other setting, would more then likely be hunted, or dispised for their own reasons. And Fur-Suits? *Shivers* Anyways, its those kinds of people, that go around looking for the cutest, sexiest pics they can find, and just...sit about, those people just suck.  Some time before, in a RP forgotten, lost in the Mysts of Time, there used to be Anthro-Rpers that where serious, that could be found in active rooms, and that people didn't hate.  Nowadays, furs tend to sit around in one or two rooms.

And finally, Elitists.  Those groups of people who will only rp with those they are close friends with, or demand that you can post like a RPG God *Not god-modding, but with such fantastic detail that it feels like your trying to read Moby Dick just trying to get through their profiles*  Just because someone doesnt rp to what you believe is a 'minimum' limit, doesn't mean they are not worth it.  I have rped with several people that barely knew how to, and slowly taught them better 'rp manners, and in the end, they turn out to be fairly decent players that only needed a little help instead of 'OMG you stupid noob /kick"


And that, Quahog, is what Grinds my Gears.

[MadMusician]

People who try to make RPs out of any idea that so much as flies across their minds.

You know what I'm talking about.